Living Under Father’s Care

Our latest edition of The God Journey entitled Living In the Father’s Care has just been posted on our sister website thegodjourney.com.

Join us for a trip to the land down under as we offer another in our continuing series of interviews with people all over the world who are living this journey with great freedom and joy. Wayne interviews Kevin Smith of Lancefield, Victoria in Australia as he shares the lessons a group of believers have experienced over the past 20 years of living as a relational community of God’s people. “Kevin has been an older brother to me in this journey and has encouraged me and confirmed so many of the things God has put on my heart over the ten years we’ve been friends and brothers.” says Wayne. As Kevin shares their story and the transitions Jesus took them through, he touches on our growing trust in Father’s care, their freedom from institutional expectations, the community it has spawned, and its effect on their children.

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People You Know Not Of

I love the way God connects people and that is not nearly so difficult as we all imagine. Over the last two days I’ve received two emails that illustrate that better than I can say it. The first is in response to a recent blog on When the Falseness of Religion Succumbs to the Reality of Relationship. Jason from Iowa wrote me to describe how he is moving from the falseness of religion to the reality of relationship in finding fellowship where he lives:

I really enjoyed reading your blog by the brother that stated, “Father said, ‘You know, the problem is that all along you’ve viewed the Scripture from the perspective of ‘must do’, ‘must perform’, ‘must make happen’. All along the Scripture has been intended to be viewed from the perspective of discovery of who I am and who you are and all that I have for you and intend to work in you but only in the context of relationship with me.’”

This reminds me of myself and how I approached God, but it also reminds me of how I used to approach relationships in general. I went out of my way to try and have relationship with other believers. I felt that if I used the right ingredients, then a great Christian relationship would be the result. However, that was just not the case. No matter what I did to try and orchestrate a great relationship for my wife and I with other believers, it simply did not turn out how I envisioned.

I remember writing you to complain about Christians that would rather read about relationship in the Bible than actually live it out. You gave me some advice that I was not ready to accept at that time. You told me something really crazy. You stated to simply trust Father and accept what He puts in front of you. That was the last thing I wanted to hear and so I did what any hardheaded knucklehead would do—I continued to try and orchestrate relationships with other couples. After a while, we finally had enough and burned out trying. We completely shut down over the summer as far as trying. We had had enough of trying to manufacture relationship.

I am so glad we burned out. It was the best thing that could have happened. It would have been better if we accepted your advice from the beginning, but at least we finally stopped trusting ourselves to create what we were longing for.

Once we stopped, God seemed to start. We are currently meeting every few weeks just to hang out at another couple’s home on Sunday afternoons into the evening. No agenda, and no pressure. If we want to go, we go. If not, then we simply won’t. They and another couple are the same way. It is not some fancy event. We are all trying to keep it as simple as possible. We are just enjoying each other’s company, including the kids. The chats are wonderful. We do not have to, but we find ourselves talking about God in so many different ways. It is truly refreshing. I do not know how long Father will keep us together, especially since they may be moving back to Michigan next summer, but it does not matter. Father knows what we need and He is able to provide it no matter what, even if it does not involve other Christian couples.

On a side note, I stand in awe how God works. I remember two summers ago reading an article you wrote on why house church isn’t the answer. It really opened my eyes. Then I started to correspond with you while you were in New Zealand. After several emails back and forth with you, I talked to my home fellowship about reading your articles and the email exchanges between us. Many of them have read some of your writings.

After a few weeks, we decided to see if you would come and visit with us in Iowa. You did and our fellowship has not been the same since, and that is a good thing. We got out of the let’s make more house churches mentality. We really saw how we were limiting what God wanted to do. I know you know all this but I am building up to what God is doing now.

This past summer, I received an email from someone that saw my email on your site. They had recently moved into the area where I live and wanted to get together. I met a couple of brothers and we hit it off. Then we met a few times over the summer, but nothing big. We were all so busy. Then this fall, one of the brothers and his family invited my family over for simple fellowship at his house. The other brother and his wife were there too. It was a blast. They stated a desire to get together every few weeks or so. However, they did not want it to be something that has to take place. If we needed to not be there for whatever reason, then that was perfectly OK. The opposite is true too. Our families have so much in common. We all love the Lord!

I still have my other friends too, Wayne, but for some reason God must have opened up this time for some whole family fellowship. Regardless of how long this will take place, I have truly seen that God does know what he is doing and that he knows best. The friendships that He has provided are better than any we could have manufactured. I also want to thank you because He definitely used you throughout this whole process—not only with advice, and friendship, but literally your website. It is awesome to see how he allowed you to touch all of our lives back here in Iowa. You were simply obedient to Father and the result is much fruit.

Then, today I got this:

I had been feeling rather desperate at times desiring to be involved in house churches but, not knowing of any… and thinking that there weren’t any going on in our area… kind of an Elijah complex… “I’m the only one” syndrome — he found out later that there are thousands. Well we found out that one fellowship, within walking distance of our house, had been going on for over a year. And just the other day, I found out that a man I work with has a house fellowship in his home. I just found out that the man that cuts my hair is a Christian and is involved in a house church… all this in a town of 39,000 people. The moral of the story is… I was way behind the Lord… and what He was doing… and I’m sure He is doing much more than I know. Isn’t Jesus just great!

I hope that encourages you who think you have to DO something to make fellowship happen. You only need to be responsive to him. He has more stuff going on than we can conceive, and he is really good at what he does. So, relax! Listen to him and follow him and in his time he will set you in his family just as he desires…

Well I’m off to Canada tomorrow and 5 days hanging out with some believers on Vancouver Island…

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Koinonia Cultivators

Our latest edition of The God Journey entitled Koinonia Cultivators has just been posted on our sister website thegodjourney.com.

Wayne and Brad follow-up last week’s podcast on Koinonia Killers by responding to some of the comments and concerns that were sent in after the show. It gives them a chance to focus on those things that lead to deeper fellowship and greater life in him and how we can love those who we are not always drawn to easily. It’s really about unlocking the treasure God has put in all of us and which sin and shame have twisted and distorted.

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When the Falseness of Religion Succumbs to the Reality of Relationship

I love reading about the work God is doing in people to set them free in his life. This letter comes from a brother I stayed with on a recent trip out of state. I love what he shares here about his growing relationship with Father and his freedom in Christ. I share it to encourage others in that same process. I think everything he’s hearing here is from the heart of the Father. God’s been speaking this way to him for a long time, but now he is recognizing that it is God, and the old tapes playing in his head of performance and condemnation were never him. That’s the beginning of some really incredible things.

This journey that I am on is really something else. I thought you might be interested to hear what he Lord is doing. First I want to tell you that I can’t remember any conference I’ve attended having the same lasting affect on me that your weekend visit has so far. It’s the gift that keeps on giving.

I suppose I hear at least a hundred times a day, “relax..”. I never realized just how much of my life has been based on performance, or how deeply engrained has been the idea that somehow I must produce the things that Jesus wants to see in me. You can well imagine the sense of relief and freedom I am feeling. Your CDs are a big help, but more importantly I am hearing more clearly than ever before directly from Father Himself. How wonderful!

All the things I used to do that were spiritual (more religious, actually) are being overhauled into a new dynamic. Now, I find that my days are filled more with fellowship with Him and that the things I used to do to get close to Him are woven into our relationship as I walk through each day. And in that I am discovering how desperately I have always needed a Father, one that I never had. And He is revealing Himself as my Father! Man, oh man!!!

The other day I was struggling through some setbacks and disappointments when I just lost it and threw a mini-tantrum. After I calmed down, I went back to Father to apologize. Same old perspective – You are Holy God and who am I to challenge you like that, etc. What he said stunned me. He said, David, you never had a father to whom you could express yourself like that. And when you did it would have been better if you hadn’t. Then he immediately showed me a picture of how I have been with my sons when they did the same thing, reminding me that I didn’t punish them but let them vent, encouraged them and came along side of them to work through the issues with them.

Wayne, I have never made the connection until now – honestly. God showed me that that’s how he is! Matter of fact he said – “You are my son! I understand and here I am to work through it with you. We are partners in this.” Isn’t that amazing? He actually said that to me.

Then a little while later I was thinking about Scripture and pondering something I had read. Father said, “you know, the problem is that all along you’ve viewed the Scripture from the perspective of ‘must do’, ‘must perform’, ‘must make happen’. All along the Scripture has been intended to be viewed from the perspective of discovery of who I am and who you are and all that I have for you and intend to work in you but only in the context of relationship with me.” This is amazing—probably elementary to you but a real revelation to me.

So, this is how my journey is starting out, Wayne. I understand now what you meant about Father’s “tangible” love. I think I’m experiencing it. It’s not an emotion but something a lot deeper. There’s a connection that’s never been there before and the reason I know it’s true is because it is there day after day, all day, – not fleeting like emotions. I am beginning to have a sense of sonship with my Father. And He is answering the literally lifelong cry of my heart – to know Him and know His love.
I can’t get my mind around the freedom and peace I am experiencing. I can’t get my mind around this sense of being a son and having a father. It’s amazing.

Isn’t this incredible? It’s a great record of what it looks like when religious thinking gives way to relational life in Christ!

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Koinonia Killers

Our latest edition of The God Journey entitled Koinonia Killers has just been posted on our sister website thegodjourney.com.

In this edition Brad and I discuss koinonia killers. Christian fellowship isn’t rocket science. People passionate about Jesus who get near each other find themselves sharing his life without much work at all… unless something gets in the way. And believe us, things can get in the way. We call those koinonia killers and Brad and Wayne not only discuss the kinds of things people can do that sabotage, even unwittingly, but also what others can do to turn those moments into doorways of growth instead of barriers to body life.

On a personal note, today is Sara’s birthday, so we’re celebrating that. The fires in Southern Cal are unbelievable and many have called to make sure we’re out of harm’s way. The big one is about 10 miles from us but moving away. We had one behind our development yesterday, but a quick response got it out in two hours. In addition to the podcast, I put up a new chapter in the Jake saga.

First thing tomorrow morning I head to Visalia, California to do a staff and elders retreat for a Mennonite fellowship there and then speak at their weekend services. Yes, this is a strange invitation for me, but I’m excited for the hungers I hear coming from those folks, and to be reacquainted with many of my friends from that region.

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To Leave or Not To Leave?

Sometimes when I’m responding to an email, I’m aware that what I’m writing is intended for more than just the person I’m writing to, that the question is universal enough that others find themselves in similar situations. When that happens I like to let you look over my shoulder at an email exchange that might encourage you as well. This one from England was like that so I’m going to share the dialog. His response at the end gets it exactly right:

I am writing from England, in the hope that you might find a few moments to help me out. I am part of a small congregation, which was formed by two elders from the congregation we used to be a part of in the same city…. I am involved in leading worship… The elders of the congregation have joined the church to a group (i.e. “Apostles” and “Prophets” and their entourage) that holds a very different viewpoint eschatalogically. I know eschatology isn’t the be-all and end-all of the Christian life, but I find it most unsettling to know that the church I am with is so closely linked to this group that so differs on these things. The elders of the church insist that we aren’t “under” the group, but that they are there for us, to help us out, and we are able to have them as involved with us as we want them to be. I’m somewhat skeptical of this arrangement, and from the way the elders relate to these people it seems to me they hold them in a certain amount of awe.

Apart from this problem, is the whole thing about the “vision” of the church. When we joined, we thought that we were similar in vision to the lead elder and his wife, but (lately) I have heard precious little, if anything, that demonstrates to me an underlying passion to see people brought to Jesus. Another worrying thing is that he has demonstrated, albeit only on one occasion so far, of heavy-handed manipulative tactics on the congregation: standing at the front after calling people up to be prayed for to receive the Holy Spirit and voicing his frustration that nobody responded, then insisting that he knew exactly who did and who did not speak in tongues….

The church is very small, but the leadership have, right from the start, insisted on having a full PA, and the usual sit-on-the-bus format. Everyone (including us) is getting worn out putting on the “show”, and it’s putting alot of pressure on alot of people; but to what end? So all-in-all I am not finding it at easy, and my wife is sharing my disquiet. I have been seriously considering our options, but I am concerned that I don’t starve my family of Christian fellowship. We live in a small village, and we aren’t that confident that there would be much for us in the way of fellowship out here.


My response: I appreciate you taking the time to share your story with me. Unfortunately I know hearing one side of a story is never complete, because we each perceive things in our own way. That said, I don’t doubt your sincerity, but I do doubt my ability to give any practical counsel that could be helpful to you. Obviously, I would not support the things you say this group is doing, nor the position the leaders put people in to advance their view of leadership.

I can say this, however, I wonder if God is doing something in your heart and you keep trying to think it through with your head. Let me encourage you to simply do what God is putting on your heart. If it is to stay and serve IN SPITE of all that seems screwed up to you there, do that. If it’s to not support what you don’t support, then feel free to move out and see what Father might have for you. Don’t think that God will give you all the answers before you follow. You may have no idea where fellowship will come from if you leave, but is that reason enough to stay with something you find so painful? Some people do spend some lonely years before they find connections with others. Some find it right away. I can’t tell you what it will be for you. And I certainly don’t encourage people to a private shell. I think community is a crucial part of living in this family and I do know that Jesus is big enough to place us in the family exactly as he desires. And sometimes I think he finds great value in having us be alone with him for awhile to get some of the religious thinking out of us before linking up again with others.

I can’t tell you how things might sort out, but I don’t think it is helpful for any of us to try to figure that out in advance. We’re usually wrong about our speculations anyway. I’d encourage you to simply sit down with your wife and ask God to make clear to you what he’s asking of you right now and just do it. Don’t make those leaders villains to justify that. You don’t have to think of yourself more right than them. You just need to be faithful to what God puts in your heart. Feel free to make some mistakes in sorting that out. And go for it! Trust him to fit everything together in his way.

In times like this, be absolutely honest when people ask why you’re doing what you’re doing, but do it as graciously and lovingly as you can muster. That’s how we all grow up, when we are each ‘speaking the truth in love to each other.’

I very much appreciate your angle on things, and will certainly take your words to heart. You are right – I do have a bit of head/heart confusion from time to time, which is not always helpful. I am going to try to be more open to what God is saying to my heart, and follow more the light that freedom brings, even if that is within the situation we are now in. I think that we will probably take some time away from the situation, at least, so we can properly assess where we are going. My wife & I have already found agreement on that one. I also found your advice not to make them villains to justify what we feel to do, a great help. I think I was doing that a bit. But it also frees me from the need to have a “good case” for going the way we decide in God to go.

How amazing that you can help me from such a distance, so quickly!

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The Only Priest You’ll Ever Need!

When I was in Virginia a few months ago, I was with a dear friend of mine, who presided over my wedding to Sara and has remained a lifelong friend. He is a Methodist minister and also a church historian. When I was with him recently he asked me if I knew historically how the priests in the third-century took on the role of being confessors as mediators between God and man? I told him I did not and what he said fascinated me.

It seems all the heretical movements that sprung up in the 2nd and 3rd centuries had one thing in common. They denied the divine nature of Christ. To combat this, those who fought for orthodoxy crafted their creeds and confessions by embellishing the divine nature of Christ. Though it affirmed him as “man of very man”, its emphasis was on “God of very God”. In time the emphasis on his human nature almost vanished and his humanity was only considered for the brief time he actually lived in the flesh, but was thought of in his current state as the exalted King of Kings and Lord of Lords.

He went on to say that we are wired in such a way that we need a human mediator to usher us into the presence of God. When we lost our sense of the humanity of Jesus, it was natural for us to want to place someone between God and us. The priests and clergy took on that role as a mediator between God and man and people were content to let them do that. Then he looked at me and smiled, “And don’t think you Charismatics get a pass on this. Your dependence on pastoral, apostolic, and prophetic people reflects that same reality.”

I didn’t fight him. I understood exactly what he was saying and saw in my own past how I believed Jesus was a man when he was here, but have always seen him more today as the King of Kings, than my older brother. He still lives on as fully God and fully human, as the firstborn of the new creation. This has had some profound effect in my own personal relationship with Jesus. While I still embrace him as the High King seated at the right hand of God the Father, I am also seeing him there as my older brother and the only mediator I or anyone else will ever need.

It has begun to work some wonderful changes in my heart. It doesn’t diminish his deity at all, but defines it in a more awesome way. It makes me even re-think what we call the Parable of the Prodigal son. What if the older brother in that parable would have been Jesus instead of the religious junkie he was? How would Jesus have acted differently in going out to his brother and letting him know that there is still room in Father’s house for him? Amazing stuff!

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BodyLife to Die For!

I have just finished Larry Crabbe’s latest book SoulTalk on the recommendation of my collaborator on the Jake site. He said it was the best book on Christian interaction he had ever read. Yes, I got over my unspoken what-about-my-books? reaction and read it anyway. Eighty percent of this book is incredible! He definitely gets too cute with the his terminology and too patronizing with his five-steps to transforming conversations, but most of that is probably what the publishers made him do to market the thing.

Don’t let those things, however, rob you from the substance of this book, which strikes to the heart of what koinonia is—a conversation with other brothers and sisters that helps them see beyond themselves and grasp the reality of who God is and how he is drawing them to himself. If you really want to sort out how to have conversations that inspire people in this incredible journey, this is a must read!

Sara and I are reading it together now. Let me give you a quote from what we read this morning, and I’ll entice you with some more in days ahead…

Churches, by no means all but too many, have become as dangerous to the health of our soul as porn shops. People leave both superficially titillated and deeply numbed. Religious events can be as irrelevant to real life as cocktail parties at country clubs. “Oh, you just redecorated your home? How wonderful. You must tell me all about it: or, “Wasn’t that just a beautiful sermon? The illustrations, the stories—I felt so moved.” Christian organizations dedicated to reaching people wit the gospel struggle internally with moral compromise, relational divisions and strutting egos. Christian crusaders push for biblical literacy and expository preaching and abortion protesting and porn shop closing, and their words seem energized more by power-hungry morals and grace-lacking legalism than by engagement with culture on behalf of a holy and loving God. And without a noticeable shift in tone or in mood, religious conversation turns to market woes and prudent investment strategies and fundraising opportunities. …

We rarely hear words that draw our soul into the soul of another human being and together into God.”

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Connecting With the Neighborhood

As many of you know, Sara and I moved three months ago into a new neighborhood. We also like connecting with our neighbors so that we can share community life with them. Our old neighborhood made that very easy. The houses were situated so that the living areas were in front and we got to know most of our neighbors quickly. That has not been true here.

All the homes on our current street are situated toward the back yards. We do not even have a window that faces the front yard from downstairs. Most people come home from work, pull into their garages and roll down the doors and you never see them again. That combined with my travel has made it difficult to get to know our neighbors other than the one couple who lives next door.

Lately, I’ve been praying about God making connections with our neighbors. I know the longer you live somewhere the more awkward it is to meet people for the first time. Yesterday afternoon I got some of the answers to that. While watching football with my family, we had a couple of pieces of furniture out on the driveway that we wanted to sell. One of our neighbors came by to buy one of the items so I helped move it into his home and that opened a door to get to know that family. I found out one of the renters there wanted the couch we had for sale, but couldn’t afford it. We ended up giving it to her.

Also a single grad student from next door accidentally locked herself out of her house with her keys and cell phone inside. She came over to use our phone. Unable to reach her roommates, she was going to walk a couple of miles to where one of her roommates was working. Sara offered to drive her but unfortunately no one was there. She came back and we told her she was welcome to hang out with us until one of her roommates returned. She stayed almost four hours with us, watching football and enjoying our hospitality. We got to know her really well.

I don’t know what kinds of doors these encounters will open, but I’m just really blessed that in the normal course of a relaxed Sunday God would open doors to two of the households on our street. All it took from us was a willingness to get involved, do what we can to help others, and extend some graciousness along the way. There’s no telling where those relationships might go or how else God might open doors on this street. More to come, I hope!

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Those Brothers and Sisters in Ladysmith

Have I got a story for you!

For those of you who haven’t visited our sister website at The God Journey and listen in to one of our podcasts, now is an excellent time to check it out. If you have been a regular, you won’t want to miss this one. This is one of the most compelling stories I’ve run into on this journey.

Meet Stefan Vosloo and through him some wonderful brothers and sisters in South Africa. He was a pastor of a growing Vineyard church in Ladysmith before the hunger of that congregation for real relationship with God sent them on an amazing journey. God began to touch five things in their life together to move them from an old covenant religion to New Testament reality: priest, Sabbath, temple, sacrifice and tithing. His work in them and their response to him forever changed their life together. Wayne shares with Brad an interview he did with Stefan during his trip to South Africa last month. The process they went through and the life they have found in him together will encourage your own journey. Just click on the ‘podcast’ button below to stream it.

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