Wayne Jacobsen

New Webcast On Line

Our Sixth Webcast of The God Journey has just been posted on our sister website. In “Believers Outside the Box” Wayne and Brad discuss three articles that have appeared in major publications about believers who have left traditional congregations. It is topic we only scratched the surface of, but I’m sure we’ll revisit it more and more. Thanks to all who helped us think through this topic with your contributions through our blogs and comment lines. We are blessed that so many of you listen in to our Webcast and find it a helpful resource to thinking outside the box. If you have questions or subjects you’d like us to address in future shows, please be sure to let us know.

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The Problem with Expectations

I got the following email the other day from a brother name Hal about my most recent book. He pegs my favorite part of that book and I thought some of you might find our exchange helpful.

I am teaching your book Authentic Relationships, at my (congregation). I have really enjoyed and identified greatly with chapters 1-3. However, chapter 4 nailed me to the cross! I have been the master of expectations in my life and consequently the lives of those around me. What peace to be free from expectations! What soundness of mind! Thanks for your obedience in recording your thoughts from God!

Based on my journey with the Lord I will need to study this area more to cause it to grow. What do you recommend studying to really cultivate this thought in the soil of my heart?

Is it really freedom from all expectations or rather freedom from my expectations? Perhaps it is seeking the expectations of our Heavenly Father in all situations. Being like Jesus “channeling” (could not think of a more Christian term for being completely yielded) His father we are to “channel” Jesus by the power of the Holy Spirit—a voluntary yieldedness and cooperation with diety.

I don’t know that I can recommend a book to sort this out. I think we truly sort it out in life listening to Father as we work through our relationships with others. The more we see how our expectations destroy our freedom to love others, and how it turns them into a pawn for our own needs, the more we’ll distrust them. And besides, once we learn to rely on God to meet all our needs, there will be nothing left to ‘expect’ from others. It’s amazing. At the same time, people even become a greater blessing in our lives because God will use them to touch us, but not having our expectations in the way of that doesn’t confuse it.

And I do think it is freedom from all expectations, because we aren’t very good at discerning between our own expectations and God’s. And besides I’m not sure God has expectations of us. He gives us opportunities and allows us to do exactly what is in our heart to do. Genuineness is what is close to God’s heart, not people performing to please others.

I get to live in him today as freely as I am able, and release my brothers and sisters to do the same…

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God’s Timing is an Amazing Thing!

What a crazy week!

For some time Sara and I have felt restless about the home we live in and wondering if God was preparing to move us. This home has served us well as Sara was starting her way working in education and attending night classes for her Master’s degree, but it had some real downsides to it as well. When our daughter and her husband moved further away a few months ago to buy a home closer to the city, and asked us to move closer to them, we wondered if that might be part of it. Sara and Julie both watch out for each other when I am on the road, or Julie’s husband is. We regretted losing that when they moved away. Also, Julie has wanted to help in our office with order fulfillment and other administrative tasks as she cares for her new granddaughter. Hmmmm… But her being 45 minutes away would make that a bit complicated.

On the way to the airport for my flight to Boise a couple of weeks ago, Sara and I talked about moving and though Sara felt it was time to move, I was hopeful we would wait until Fall. Once I get into late June, I don’t have a window in my schedule to work with a move. But we agreed that it wouldn’t hurt to start looking in that area. One of the places we had talked about was the eastside of Moorpark, a more rural section with quiet hillsides and easy freeway access.

Believe it or not on her first trip out Sara found a home she fell in love with. She kept calling me every day telling me more about it. To buy it, though we would have to sell our home quickly and make an offer on the other house. It just didn’t seem possible, but we could give it the old college try.

Tuesday we listed our home. We had eight families through it the next day and sold it exactly what we needed to to purchase the other home. Last night we signed papers on the home Sara found and will move in June 9-11, just before my travel schedule goes nuts! A lot of things still have to come together for this to happen, but as I sit here this morning I am amazed at the Lord’s timing in all of this. Sara even had a job interview with a high school a week and a half ago that is only a few miles from our new home. If she gets that job so close to where we’re planning on moving, I think I’ll faint.

There’s some other real joys of moving in this house. It is on some hills behind the community college with 30 miles of open land behind our house. For an old country boy, I get claustrophobic in the city. I want room to breath and go for long walks. I’ll be closer to the airports I fly from and even have a train that can take me to one of them. It has a bonus room that will make a wonderful office for me and it has a kitchen built for entertaining. There are some wonderful out-of-the-box believers in that area that Sara and I have wanted to walk with more closely. It is also near one of the best and most affordable golf courses in this area that I enjoy playing.

And, it’s less than 10 minutes from our daughter’s house. Before we closed the deal, I made sure I had my son-in-law’s blessing. I told him I thought 45 minutes was about the right distance away for in-laws, and wouldn’t be offended if he didn’t want us too close. He laughed off my concerns telling me they would love to have us closer.

So, if everything works out, we will have sold and bought a home in less than three days and will have ample time to move before the summer begins. Nothing this huge has been quite this simple for us before, but if God had it on his heart to move us this summer, this was about the only way it could be done. It may all fall through for reasons we can’t see yet, but we’re still a bit winded from an incredible set of circumstances this week and hopeful that God has made a way for us when there seemed to be no way.

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Teaching In the Relational Church

I’ve been having a bit of conversation with a brother from Maryland about the role of teaching in the reality of the Body of Christ. I thought some of you would appreciate that exchange. Here’s what he first asked:

I’ve got a quick question for you, if you could. I’m trying to “feel out” this aspect of “teaching” in Scripture, where we see Christ speaking to crowds as well as living in intimate community. Now I understand that there is a verse in the New Testament, in fact quite a few, that talk about the “one anothering” including “teach one another.”
But what does it mean when it says that some are called to be teachers, some pastors, some apostles… all that? What does teacher mean in this verse? Is the speaking to crowds implied there, and if this is essential in the Church being as Christ was in the world, then what is the occasion for
speaking to such crowds to occur, if not by the miraculous signs that the person drawing the crowd, Jesus, has there with him? Also Jesus himself often spoke to people that were gathered together in the regular gathering place of the temple. Aren’t locally churches like the modern day equivalent to that? How is this essential in some way, if at all, from a Scriptural stand point, and what is the occasion for such situations to occur when speaking to crowds would happen, as is good. That is, if not, on a regular basis with a meeting and all that structure? Could you share some of your thoughts with me on this?

My Response: In my mind teaching is simply helping people get some truth that will help them live more deeply in Christ. To me it happens as simply as in a conversation with someone else, where the other person may not ever have identified with ‘being taught’, but nonetheless their eyes were open to something that didn’t see before. It can also happen in smaller groups with a more focused ‘sharing’ on the part of someone that others have wanted to hear from. And yes, speaking to large groups who want to hear is also a way to do that.

In my view, however, more people always mean a less effective teaching environment. The best is one-on-one where questions can be asked and answered as a discussion ensues in the real time of the hearer. The least desirable is one-on-thousands where one has to speak to the lowest common denominator. Not that it can’t or should be done, but everyone just needs to know the limitations it imposes. I teach in all of these settings with some regularity and don’t have a problem being in any environment in which Jesus calls me.

I guess what I’m trying to say is that I don’t see teaching as a ‘gift’ someone must do and others must hear. I certainly see the ability to communicate God’s truth as a gift, but it is not controlled by the ‘teacher’, but by what the hearers want to hear. In other words, it should be something imposed by the teacher, but sought by the hearers, recognizing the gift or wisdom someone has that will help them in their journeys.

Yes, I find what your saying very helpful. I guess I’m still working through (or out from) the whole idea that their needs to be some appreciate for the “model” or “example” of Christ. The real question I’m getting at, I think is how does God bring this reality of teaching through people about in the Body, and what your saying about those who are seeking truth (at God’s drawing) bringing that out in people that God will then use to teach through – is very refreshing to me. And in this sense He is still the one doing the teaching, ultimately, as well as making the arrangements (less our regularly scheduled program perhaps).

Now that I think about it, I can’t think of one time that Jesus actually made any effort to bring a large group of people together to teach them. Not even once, let alone regularly. The people chose to be around him because of the way he lived his life… and the things he did (restoring people physically and all that). He did however form those one-on-one relationships with his small group of close disciples and friends.

My Response:I love his last paragraph here. Isn’t it amazing how easily our systemic paradigms obliterate the example of Jesus? He didn’t exercise a gift that others needed to listen to. He lived his life and God opened up opportunities with individuals and crowds because they were drawn to what he had to give. He scheduled no regular meetings or studies. He didn’t do a ‘lecture’ series anywhere. The irresistible power of his message and his character drew people to his side. That doesn’t mean scheduled meetings or lecture series are wrong; it’s just that they are not so essential as others might think.

There is great value in the gift of teaching for us all in the body. Just because we don’t ‘need’ to be taught by anyone as Hebrews 8 and I John suggest, doesn’t mean there isn’t great value in learning the lessons of folks that have walked a ways ahead of where we are. It’s just that we must take care not to grow dependent on their experience, but use it to help us draw more closely to him.

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With Ever-Increasing Glory…

I’m back from Idaho and Utah, and had a fabulous time meeting with scores of people from all around that area who are in various stages of sorting out what it means to live as God’s child in the world and relate to the church as a family rather than an institution. The discussions were incredible. I met lots of people who with great passion and courage are following God’s leading rather than making themselves comfortable with the status quo. I love that stuff! And I love watching people live on the edge of their relationship with God and not be lulled into boredom by religious routine.

This really came home with a phone call I had a couple of days ago. I was talking to a friend I’ve known for almost 35 years and one of the first ‘mentors’ I had in helping me see the glories of relational life in God and in real community among the Body of Christ. As we were reminiscing about our days together his voice lowered and he said, “It’s sad to think that my best days were my earliest days.”

I was stunned. And, yes, it was incredibly sad. I wouldn’t say he is unhappy now, but for the past few decades he has been a pastor in a mainline denomination. He does that better than anyone I know. He really has a heart for people and gives himself for their good, rather than making them cogs in his own vision. Nonetheless, I could hear the tiredness in his voice as he paused now only a couple of years from retirement. He had hoped for so much more.

I remember thinking like that as well a decade or so ago as my life got caught up in the day to day demands of religious machinery that seemed to always beckon me away from the deeper callings of my heart. I remember reading 2 Corinthians 3:18 one day, “And we, who with unveiled faces all reflect the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his likeness with ever-increasing glory…” or as one translation says, “From glory to glory….” I used to joke that this journey seems a lot more like “from pit to pit,” rather than from “glory to glory” and I remember lots of people getting a good chuckle out of that. We used to look at the exuberance of new converts and remember with longing those early days. We used to think, ”Just wait until they mature a bit then they will be as bored with this Christian life as the rest of us.” How sad!

Our earliest days were never meant to be our best days. And I have found they are not. Ten years ago I was on that long, painful slide into numbness that religious routine smothers us with. Thankfully, God drew us out of that and gave us a taste of real life in him and real relationships with brothers and sisters. I wouldn’t trade the experiences of the last year for any one previous. It really is from glory to glory that he changes us. That doesn’t mean every day is blissful, but that we see his hand ever-working even in the pain and sacrifice that his life calls us to. And we see the growing imprint of his nature on ours.

That’s what makes it all worthwhile. Don’t let your spiritual life slowly decline into mere routine or commitment. Pour out your heart to him and let him renew you in the glory of his life and set you on the track that takes you further into his glory every day, instead of further away from it. Don’t let yourself get to the end of your days, pining away for the ‘good old days,’ Rather, let him lead you ever-closer to him so that each day reflects his glory better than those who’ve gone before.

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Leaving the Institution…

In the last two months, the two major Christian magazines in America (Christianity Today and Charisma) have run three major articles about people who no longer fit into our Sunday (or Saturday) morning congregations. Each of these articles speak negatively of those who have left and advance the notion that it is the duty of every Christian to belong to one of the institutions that call themselves church to be part of the body of Christ. One even points that out while admitting that the structures itself are dead. Here are the articles in case you missed them:

Interesting… Three articles in two months? It sounds like someone is worried about something. I wonder why that is? Wouldn’t it be helpful to discuss the pros and cons of these articles? That’s exactly what Brad and I plan to do in our next edition of The God Journey, to be taped on Wednesday, May 4. We hope to shed some light on the growing conflict between those who are in the institutions and those who are not and for that we would love some of you to help us out with your thoughts, questions and insights.

  • Do you agree or disagree with these articles?

  • Are you no longer part of an organized congregation? Why? Have you found your experience with church has increased or decreased by this choice?

  • Are you part of a congregation and miss those who have left and wish they’d come back?

If you would, we’d love to include many different voices, and you can record your comments or questions by calling our comment line in the U.S. at (805) 626-4212. You can also contribute by commenting on this blog by clicking on the ‘feedback’ button below.

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An Incredible Story of Renewal

Our Fifth Webcast of The God Journey has just been posted on our sister website. “A Journey Into Renewal” chronicles one congregation as they sought God’s heart for spiritual renewal. Five years ago this congregation in Sacramento had a building, a staff, a slew of programs and a heart for renewal. Over the last five years in simple acts of obedience they have deconstructed their congregational life. In November they stopped meeting on Sunday mornings. In December the staff voluntarily resigned their salaries, and in January they sold the building. In a story reminiscent of That Lot in Fairlee, they are now learning to live as God’s people in Sacramento and are discovering a renewal they had not imagined. In this special Webcast, Wayne interviews one of the key people in this process, as he relates their journey and the lessons they’ve learned along the way. It’s an incredible story of people on a journey to friend freedom and vitality in their relationship with God and each other.

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Take a Deep Breath of Freedom!

A newly found Internet sister wrote me the other day about something other believers were pushing her to do. They felt like she should be writing up her story as an encouragement to others. She didn’t feel that was God’s priority for her, but felt a bit selfish in giving herself to her family if others thought there was a ‘greater ministry’ afoot.

I wrote her the following: “I think God unfolds his work to us as we do each day what he puts in our heart to do. Other people suggesting we have a story to write can certainly be a seed God is planting into our heart, but it is not enough motivation to do what he has not made clear with us. I have felt I’ve had clear direction on the books I have undertaken. I see that not as a specific ‘word’ he spoke to me, but a growing conviction over time of what he wanted me to do. Not all of those have worked out like I thought, but I gave time to them as he made the way clear. I’m certain you can trust that. If there comes a time he wants you to tell that story in a more formal way, you’ll know it in your heart. People’s suggestions can be a great seed being planted, or even a confirmation of what he might be speaking to us. But they are not ever to be our sole motivation for something so extensive as this.”

Here is her response:

Thank you so much! In my heart, I know this is not the season (if it ever is to be). There’s so much God is doing in my life, and still healing so much in our family. I know this may even sound selfish right now, but my family needs all the attention I can give to them. I still have great friends, and the body of Christ…but my family is the current season of my life. And it seems God provides many ways for us to give and reach out to others though this family unit.

I should have remembered that Father knows me so well, He has no problem speaking to my heart when He wants me to hear Him. (I just took a deep breath and a sigh of relief) Once again, I even have to look at old strong holds in my life, and one primary one was the fear of man—fearing what others thought of me (or trying to gain approval by doing what was right). I’ve allowed my life to be ruled too long by what others think. He’s set me free. Your email helped remind me of that liberty I have nd remembering that Father does speak to my heart.

Isn’t it funny how religion can make us feel guilty even about the things Father asks us to do? I have not read a better description of the power and simplicity of freedom than what she wrote in that last paragraph. If you need a deep breath today to follow what God has put on your heart especially if it crosses the well-intentioned encouragements of good friends, take it. God is able to make his way clear to you as you live each day in him.

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Hungry for Relationships

I’m sorry the blog is so quiet, but I am currently in Pocatello, Idaho hanging out with some folks that are thinking outside the box. I started last Friday in Boise and spent three days there with some great folks. We had two days with a house full of people who are at various stages in the journey, but all of them hungry to walk in God’s life. One of the joys of my travels is seeing people connect from the same area who have some knowledge of me, but don’t know about each other. There was a lot of that in Boise. I’ll be in Pocatello all week with a number of different groups and a regional conference on Saturday. Then I’m headed down to Salt Lake City for Saturday night and Sunday.

I got an interesting email over the weekend that I thought you might enjoy reading. It’s from David in Michigan and before anyone accuses him of painting with a broad brush, he is sharing his experience. And, believe me he is not alone in his experience…

I had emailed you regarding Authentic Relationshipsabout a year ago and commented on how much I loved the book. Since then, my wife and I have given away about fifteen copies. Three went to pastors and would you believe that–without exception–the ones who promised to read the book but didn’t were the pastors? It blows my mind.

So as a result of this and the book in general, I spent the past year thinking and praying a lot about this and how such an important facet of church life is so undervalued. The other day I feel I got a reply from God and wanted to share it with you.

I noticed the pastors who weren’t interested in the book all had busy plans to “grow their church”. They were immersed in programs and activities to build enthusiasm, commitments attendance and converts.

I also spent some time thinking about what an authentic relationship is and what “one anothering” is and came to this conclusion: Jesus said the two greatest commandments were to love the Lord and love your neighbor and in these two things all of the law was satisfied. An authentic relationship is simply “loving your neighbor as yourself”. It’s fine to have a church and meetings and evangelism but I think it must proceed through a real relationship with those whom you would work with or reach. “Without love…etc.”

Anyway, here’s the reply I got regarding the lack of interest by pastors; They are trying to focus on external things to build the kingdom of God but the Kingdom of God is within. If what we do doesn’t proceed from what is truly already in us then it is of practically no value. In fact, our greatest “authentic relationship” must be with God. We must do things for Him — not from strategizing or planning or laboring—but because of our relationship with Him. We do it because He is authentically our friend and Father and companion and Savior and because we are personally grateful and love Him and simply want to please Him in return. Everything else is window dressing. Too many churches are trying to build the kingdom on earth through external activity and emphasis without ever realizing that these things are valueless to God if they don’t proceed from love.

Charismatics are saying, “If we just focus more on the anointing or prayer, then God will come!” Baptists are saying, “If we just preached more and taught the Word more then God will come!” So they do these things hoping to invoke God–often as a result of a doctrinal and dogmatic philosophy that they have never questioned. They hold special meetings and begin new programs and study past movements and sermons. The problem is, God is within. He is already present in us. We don’t build things and hope the Kingdom will come; we build things because the Kingdom has already come within us. Revival begins in the individual–it isn’t an experience to be conjured and summoned by activity and effort.

Just thought it was worth sharing. Hope your days are blessed.

My response: Love it! Love it! Love it!

I think you’ve put your finger on something that is so important… and sad! I know from having been a pastor that building relationships is something we wanted people to do, but saw the success of the job far more dependent on programs and activities that wear people out more than build relationships. I also thing the need of systems to build dependency on itself and push people to conformity undermines real, honest and supportive relationships.

I like to think of my life now as doing this with God rather than for him. That keeps me on his agenda rather than confusing me with my own, even the things I do in his name. Thanks for sharing your insight. I appreciate it very much and I like where your head and heart are at.

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