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		<title>By: Sue</title>
		<link>http://lifestream.org/blog/2009/11/12/the-lie-of-celebrity/comment-page-1/#comment-30502</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand what Bonnie was saying about the ministers being celebrities, the mega church I used to attend had, has a minister that people just love listening to, I&#039;ve heard so many people say &#039;&#039;if he leaves this church, I&#039;m leaving to&#039;&#039;. How sad they are only there to listen to him. I&#039;m so glad I got away from all of that, that now it&#039;s just me and Father hanging out together...I love it.
I must admit Wayne a few months ago you were in Indpls., my daughter Trish stayed at a house up in Indpls to meet you, I wasn&#039;t able to go, but while I was at a store here in Blgtn. Trish called me on my cell phone and said &#039;&#039;Hey mom, I have someone that wants to talk to you&#039;&#039;, it was you. I couldn&#039;t believe it. I said it was an honor to speak to you, I remember what you said &#039;&#039;really? I don&#039;t know why?&#039;&#039; It made me laugh, but I see what you&#039;re saying. I can&#039;t identify with celebrities....and I don&#039;t want to. Thanks for being down to earth Wayne.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand what Bonnie was saying about the ministers being celebrities, the mega church I used to attend had, has a minister that people just love listening to, I&#8217;ve heard so many people say &#8221;if he leaves this church, I&#8217;m leaving to&#8221;. How sad they are only there to listen to him. I&#8217;m so glad I got away from all of that, that now it&#8217;s just me and Father hanging out together&#8230;I love it.<br />
I must admit Wayne a few months ago you were in Indpls., my daughter Trish stayed at a house up in Indpls to meet you, I wasn&#8217;t able to go, but while I was at a store here in Blgtn. Trish called me on my cell phone and said &#8221;Hey mom, I have someone that wants to talk to you&#8221;, it was you. I couldn&#8217;t believe it. I said it was an honor to speak to you, I remember what you said &#8221;really? I don&#8217;t know why?&#8221; It made me laugh, but I see what you&#8217;re saying. I can&#8217;t identify with celebrities&#8230;.and I don&#8217;t want to. Thanks for being down to earth Wayne.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsay</title>
		<link>http://lifestream.org/blog/2009/11/12/the-lie-of-celebrity/comment-page-1/#comment-30426</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really appreciate your writing on this topic as it is something that has been changing in my own life.  I have gotten so caught up in the whole celebrity thing wishing I could be one or look like one in the past.  But as I have really begun to know God the lie is being revealed and I am so thankful for that.  I am however sad for the celebrities themselves.  I would imagine that so much has to stay hidden and can never be dealt with because of the image they have to portray.  What a total contrast to the Life of healing that God offers to us.  Where he wants all our junk and coping mechanisims to come into the light so that He can be a part of it with us, walk through it with us, and show us how to live loved.  How much more difficult in that atmosphere it must be! When I think about it now, I am often able to realize that the life I thought would be &quot;it&quot; is what I might just be the very most difficult lie to live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really appreciate your writing on this topic as it is something that has been changing in my own life.  I have gotten so caught up in the whole celebrity thing wishing I could be one or look like one in the past.  But as I have really begun to know God the lie is being revealed and I am so thankful for that.  I am however sad for the celebrities themselves.  I would imagine that so much has to stay hidden and can never be dealt with because of the image they have to portray.  What a total contrast to the Life of healing that God offers to us.  Where he wants all our junk and coping mechanisims to come into the light so that He can be a part of it with us, walk through it with us, and show us how to live loved.  How much more difficult in that atmosphere it must be! When I think about it now, I am often able to realize that the life I thought would be &#8220;it&#8221; is what I might just be the very most difficult lie to live.</p>
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		<title>By: todd</title>
		<link>http://lifestream.org/blog/2009/11/12/the-lie-of-celebrity/comment-page-1/#comment-30408</link>
		<dc:creator>todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i so appreciate your sharing about just normal folks who you&#039;ve encountered walking in more freedom in Father....

this is a wonderful and magnetic thing....

cheers,

todd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i so appreciate your sharing about just normal folks who you&#8217;ve encountered walking in more freedom in Father&#8230;.</p>
<p>this is a wonderful and magnetic thing&#8230;.</p>
<p>cheers,</p>
<p>todd</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on.  It&#039;s no better in the political world, as you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on.  It&#8217;s no better in the political world, as you know.</p>
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		<title>By: Theresa</title>
		<link>http://lifestream.org/blog/2009/11/12/the-lie-of-celebrity/comment-page-1/#comment-30353</link>
		<dc:creator>Theresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched the CMA awards the other night....loved it for the most part as I&#039;m a country music fan....but you&#039;re spot on as far as the celebrity thing.  Nashville was all abuzz with the fanfare.  

Being in the Nashville area, we&#039;ve had plenty of opportunity to meet celebs and sadly, I really can&#039;t think of any interactions where I felt like I was meeting a &quot;Real&quot; person.  The performance never ends even when they&#039;re off the stage.  

And yeah...what Bonnie said.  Oh the friends we&#039;ve seen destroyed because of the celebrity status of their ministry. 

Such a fake, plastic world!  

PS Wayne...may I have your autograph????  JUST KIDDING!!!  I&#039;m JUST KIDDING, alright?! hee hee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched the CMA awards the other night&#8230;.loved it for the most part as I&#8217;m a country music fan&#8230;.but you&#8217;re spot on as far as the celebrity thing.  Nashville was all abuzz with the fanfare.  </p>
<p>Being in the Nashville area, we&#8217;ve had plenty of opportunity to meet celebs and sadly, I really can&#8217;t think of any interactions where I felt like I was meeting a &#8220;Real&#8221; person.  The performance never ends even when they&#8217;re off the stage.  </p>
<p>And yeah&#8230;what Bonnie said.  Oh the friends we&#8217;ve seen destroyed because of the celebrity status of their ministry. </p>
<p>Such a fake, plastic world!  </p>
<p>PS Wayne&#8230;may I have your autograph????  JUST KIDDING!!!  I&#8217;m JUST KIDDING, alright?! hee hee</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting to hear Jesus&#039; words (in the Message) from Luke 16:15...

&quot;You are masters at making yourselves look good in front of others, but God knows what&#039;s behind the appearance. What society sees and calls monumental, God sees through and calls monstrous.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting to hear Jesus&#8217; words (in the Message) from Luke 16:15&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;You are masters at making yourselves look good in front of others, but God knows what&#8217;s behind the appearance. What society sees and calls monumental, God sees through and calls monstrous.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie</title>
		<link>http://lifestream.org/blog/2009/11/12/the-lie-of-celebrity/comment-page-1/#comment-30345</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t help but be reminded of my experience within the church and how the pastors of the church i attended --celebrity status --It was like they were the only ones who heard from God or had the gifts--I was told noone could go near them unless they allowed..or God said you were safe..MYMYMY..I even remember the Senior Pastor packed a gun during the service. It was even hard to not put yourself down when the special speakers came to town..they would annoint on and on the pastors for the work..they seemed to be the only ones thst God called ..they were the chosen...who was I?  

I couldn&#039;t dress the part or look like a model --yes i tried but gave up as it was phoney for me--I felt as if I was letting God down because i wan&#039;t like them..condemnation ...but the Bible says there is no condemnation ..only as I removed myself from the church was I able to stand and see that God made me for me .and He is no respector of persons..the first will be last and the last first...so many years i wasted wanting to have a name..as I thought only than you were someone and God only than were you tuely blessed by God.. 

I am a no name..but I have many brothers and sisters who are also like me..and we make up the body of Christ as it is about Him and not us..our purpose was we were made for His glory and He delights in us. In perspective we are pebbles on a beach and how humbling to think if you think you are something as the water washes over us we all get wet and we are still pebbles...different sizes and shapes..and amazing that our Father knows the #of hairs on our head and the # of pebbles on the beaches.He&#039;s the Amazing One...not us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t help but be reminded of my experience within the church and how the pastors of the church i attended &#8211;celebrity status &#8211;It was like they were the only ones who heard from God or had the gifts&#8211;I was told noone could go near them unless they allowed..or God said you were safe..MYMYMY..I even remember the Senior Pastor packed a gun during the service. It was even hard to not put yourself down when the special speakers came to town..they would annoint on and on the pastors for the work..they seemed to be the only ones thst God called ..they were the chosen&#8230;who was I?  </p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t dress the part or look like a model &#8211;yes i tried but gave up as it was phoney for me&#8211;I felt as if I was letting God down because i wan&#8217;t like them..condemnation &#8230;but the Bible says there is no condemnation ..only as I removed myself from the church was I able to stand and see that God made me for me .and He is no respector of persons..the first will be last and the last first&#8230;so many years i wasted wanting to have a name..as I thought only than you were someone and God only than were you tuely blessed by God.. </p>
<p>I am a no name..but I have many brothers and sisters who are also like me..and we make up the body of Christ as it is about Him and not us..our purpose was we were made for His glory and He delights in us. In perspective we are pebbles on a beach and how humbling to think if you think you are something as the water washes over us we all get wet and we are still pebbles&#8230;different sizes and shapes..and amazing that our Father knows the #of hairs on our head and the # of pebbles on the beaches.He&#8217;s the Amazing One&#8230;not us.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Childress</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Childress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think people like celebrity precisely because it is unreal.  They want to escape what, to them, has become an unbearable existence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think people like celebrity precisely because it is unreal.  They want to escape what, to them, has become an unbearable existence.</p>
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		<title>By: David Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is remarkable what the praises of men can do to any of us. Why anyone would want to be on a pedestal astounds me.  One of the most tragic stories in the Old Testament that I had totally missed is the story of Joseph.  Through much adversity he rose to second only to Pharaoh.  His words are quoted often, what you meant for evil, God has meant for good.  In fact I have only heard wonderful sermons about his life.  But, celebrity did get the best of Joseph.  
&quot;Now that I have bought you and your land today for Pharaoh Genesis 47:23.  He literally used the people&#039;s own grain to buy them and turn them into what he had been, a slave.    And James reminds us, is it not the rich that are exploiting you?

Nothing much has changed, kings want a people and people want a king.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is remarkable what the praises of men can do to any of us. Why anyone would want to be on a pedestal astounds me.  One of the most tragic stories in the Old Testament that I had totally missed is the story of Joseph.  Through much adversity he rose to second only to Pharaoh.  His words are quoted often, what you meant for evil, God has meant for good.  In fact I have only heard wonderful sermons about his life.  But, celebrity did get the best of Joseph.<br />
&#8220;Now that I have bought you and your land today for Pharaoh Genesis 47:23.  He literally used the people&#8217;s own grain to buy them and turn them into what he had been, a slave.    And James reminds us, is it not the rich that are exploiting you?</p>
<p>Nothing much has changed, kings want a people and people want a king.</p>
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		<title>By: Melbourne Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melbourne Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t think of anything worse than being famous.  Nobody is capable of being able to deal with it, it seems.  Massively inflated egos, combined with the shame already living inside - what a combination, huh?  Monster making material.

I couldn&#039;t think of anything more lonely and fairy floss than being out in public, flashbulbed, knowing that people are fawning over you, wanting to be with you, wanting to be you.  And then you go home and you have the same old crap dynamics playing out in your life that you did before you were sitting pretty at the top of the mountain (with nothing there).  Is it any wonder that so many famous people take drugs?  Anything to quell the crap, anything to build yourself up to be as big as people expect you to be.  And all the while knowing that people on the other side of the coin are jealous of you, that magazines will say horrible things about you.

That sounds like such a nightmare.  Awful.  Insane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t think of anything worse than being famous.  Nobody is capable of being able to deal with it, it seems.  Massively inflated egos, combined with the shame already living inside &#8211; what a combination, huh?  Monster making material.</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t think of anything more lonely and fairy floss than being out in public, flashbulbed, knowing that people are fawning over you, wanting to be with you, wanting to be you.  And then you go home and you have the same old crap dynamics playing out in your life that you did before you were sitting pretty at the top of the mountain (with nothing there).  Is it any wonder that so many famous people take drugs?  Anything to quell the crap, anything to build yourself up to be as big as people expect you to be.  And all the while knowing that people on the other side of the coin are jealous of you, that magazines will say horrible things about you.</p>
<p>That sounds like such a nightmare.  Awful.  Insane.</p>
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